Forum .LRN Q&A: Re: RFC: Evaluation System for .LRN

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Posted by Caroline Meeks on
Hi Roc,

I had the oportunity to revisit the idea of ePortfolios

(https://openacs.org/forums/message-view?message_id=52750)

When someone mentioned they are trying out the open source version of this product.

http://www.rsmart.com/ePortfoliodemo.php

It seems useful and not difficult to implement in OACS. Do you anticipate your evaluation project having portfolio like funtionality?

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Posted by Rocael Hernández Rizzardini on
Hello Caroline,
at the moment we're not trying to address this functionality, though seems not difficult and useful, but more related to a file-storage service, don't you think?

The evaluation system is more intended to "gradding book" plus handling assignment, project, etc.

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Posted by Caroline Meeks on
Hi Roc,

I realize you aren't trying to create a portfolio system I'm just interested in understanding both portfolio systems and what you are building better.

Portfolios are intersting because there is so much in OACS that is a lot like one yet we don't actually have the functionality.

For instance, in the Homework package a student uploads a document as evidence of having done an assignment.  Then the instructor uploads comments. So far this is very similar to a portfolio system. But in a portfolio system there is a view of all of a student's work not just assignment by assignment and there is addional flexibility to control who has read on both the documents and the comments.

You're system will  have the student centered view of assignemnts right?

Can you view a grade report by student across classes or just for all assignments within a class?

Does the instructor just submit a grade or can he also submit comments?

In your system, does a student submit a file storage document as thier assignment, this is the way the homework package works, or are assignments submitted through a more survey like interface?

I'm not trying to add any requirements, you have already bitten off plenty! Just trying to understand what you are doing and think about different ways the same functionality might be reframmed for marketing purposes.  Maybe, if its somewhat close, the portfolio products might give you some UI ideas.

Thanks
Caroline

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Posted by Rocael Hernández Rizzardini on
Hello Caroline,

<blockquote> In your system, does a student submit a file storage document as thier
assignment, this is the way the homework package works, or are assignments
submitted through a more survey like interface?

</blockquote>

Will work more in the sense of how the homework package does, instead of the survey like, since the experience of running this package for almost 2 years has shown that that interfase is the best. The UI of this package, specially, has been used / tested by several professors, TAs, students, so its quite polished (that doesn't mean that it cannot be improved, but at least we will be for sure that is a good one)

Of course, a cross-reporting class functionality will be really useful and not difficult to make. Actually the reporting area of the tool is one that has been taken a big amount of the work, so better wait to see it or try it online, and then give us feedback to improve it.

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Posted by Jose Pablo Escobedo Del Cid on
Hello Caroline

You're system will  have the student centered view of assignemnts right?

-Yes, and it will support group assignments too (parties) for the assignments thar are in groups.

Can you view a grade report by student across classes or just for all assignments within a class?

-Currently we only have thought about reports for the professors for all assignments within a class, but an administrator can see the reports of the students across classes.

Does the instructor just submit a grade or can he also submit comments?

-He can also submit comments and decide whether the student can see the grade or not.

regards, jopez