Forum OpenACS Development: CMS templates

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Posted by Jun Yamog on
Hi,

While using CMS I have seen some real problems with it.  Changing the
templates does not automatically republish all of the content item
that uses the template.  Also I am thinking why would you need to
associate each content item a template.  I think the way a subsite
works is ok.  Maybe associating a template on the folder level will be
ok.  Or maybe not.  The multiple publish roots of CMS is pretty
useless if 2 or more publish roots will contain the templates.  Why
publish 2 exact same copies?  Maybe templating should not be handled
by CMS.  It will be able to use it but now handle it.

I think this is something that must be looked into the future after
the realease of OpenACS 4.  I am trying to make a cms-lite if it turns
out ok I will put the code up.

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2: Response to CMS templates (response to 1)
Posted by Talli Somekh on
Jun,

Why don't you try ETP? It was built because CMS is such a chore to get working. Also, it's built on top of the CMS data model which is very strong. It is much lighter than CMS, but will eventually have all of its (supposed) features.

Anyway, I might suggest trying it before rolling your own.

talli

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3: Response to CMS templates (response to 1)
Posted by Jun Yamog on
Hi Talli,

We have tried out ETP, its ok but its not something that we looking
for.  We think that the existing CMS data model and procs are ok.
The admin interface need some real work. Thanks.

Jun

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4: Response to CMS templates (response to 1)
Posted by Michael Feldstein on
Jun, the CMS issue is one that the community continues to
wrestle with. Since you are planning a real project, it would be
helpful for us to get more feedback from you regarding your
needs. What, specifically, do you need that ETP doesn't yet
have? What do you like about CMS? What parts of CMS are
particularly bad for you? The more specific feedback you can
give, the better.
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5: Response to CMS templates (response to 1)
Posted by Jun Yamog on
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I will continue to provide feedback.  I have been emailing DanW some small patches and bug issues.  An issue that I have is the publishing click <a
href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0003JX&topic_id=11&topic=OpenACS">
here</a> to see my post.
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Basically I am making CMS-lite not to replace CMS but provide an alternative interface for the basic functions that a user will use.  I will not do everything that CMS does but will provide the basic function that a user will use (e.g. add folder, add content, etc.).  Registering templates, publishing templates, etc. will still be done by CMS.</p>