Forum OpenACS Q&A: Arsdigita.com makeover
Perhaps the platform has a future?
*All* of the "case studies" they have there are built on top of ACS Tcl, which I don't have to add is an inferior version of OACS. And those have incorporated plenty of OACS in them. The new Siemens ShareNet system is built on the OACS code-base, rather the clean up of the ACS4.2 stuff
Here's a quote:
"Our team has successfully delivered dozens of enterprise deployments with companies and organizations like Siemens, Deutsche Post, The World Bank, Oracle, MIT, WGBH and many more."
If we can review that list...
- Siemens - Tcl (heavy OACS influence)
- World Bank - Tcl
- Deutsche Post - Java (but I heard it wasn't going so nicely...)
- Oracle - many moons ago...
- MIT - haha
- WGBH - Tcl
- the many more link goes to a page that's pretty much the same as this list... only more Tcl
I like Red Hat and I hope they do well. I personally feel indebted to all the aD developers that built ACS-Tcl, many of whom have chosen to join the OACS community but many of whom still work at Red Hat. I hope they do well with the ACS, too.
I just hope they don't screw up like aD did and ignore the hard work the volunteers, independent consultants and small companies are doing in the OACS. That is, if they care at all about the Tcl code (which their old customers might...) I was really hoping that they would come over and embrace the community and let us work with them. I still hope someone will notice.
Oh, and I didn't see any place to download the RHCCM.
Wouldn't it be great if it were GPLed?
It would be nice if the aD/RH folks had time to write up a quick case study of the migration from ACS 4.2 to OACS 4.5 if then indeed have done this.
An example is the link to the documentaion of the email-handler (http://www.arsdigita.com/doc/email-handler).
That's not what happened, from what I've heard. They took an earlier version, pre-alpha from what I remember, that included a great deal of bug fixes and improvements. But since then they've diverged a great deal.
If anyone is around to tell about what they did, though, that would be great.
In time, we will be adding adding new content and resources to redhat.com.
Anyone know what will happen to ACS TCL?
What about the software reposity (http://www.arsdigita.com/acs-repository) ?
As long as we are making requests...
There were a few things in wimpy point that I found handy including Ron H's Crash Course in CVS. Any chance some of the useful public stuff in wimpy point will come back in some form or another?
http://www.arsdigita.com/acs-repository/ keeps redirecting me to the RedHat CCM page. Same thing happens if I try to login to my workspace.
Thank you for fixing all those broken links you created, but your last post makes me feel like all that valuable content is going to disappear into a red hat... never to be seen again.
Many of those pages are really important for OpenACS. Can you please clarify your plans so that we will have enough time to salvage OpenACS related stuff?
Originally I was relieved when I saw this on the Red Hat site:
Will Red Hat continue to operate ArsDigita's public discussion forums (web/db, "ACS Core & CMS", etc.)?After reading your last post... I am worried.
- Red Hat recognizes the importance of these forums to the ACS Community
- Red Hat plans to continue operating these forums
- Information from the forums will be archived for easy future retrieval
- Red Hat will continue to support the public resources started on arsdigita.com
There must be two sharenet systems then...
(Du alter Penner
The current version of Siemens ShareNet, the worldwide
knowledge management system at Siemens has been built by
ArsDigita/Red Hat on
top of a nightly build of OpenACS from June 2001. It was
preceeded by ICN
ShareNet, a system based on ACS 1.3, later upgraded to ACS
3.0. It runs with
Oracle 8.1.7 and AOLserver/3.3.1+ad13mee. We are adding
new features every
ICN ShareNet has now become one of many communities
(subsites) of Siemens
The software of Agilience which you refer to in your posting is not
never was never used neither for ICN ShareNet nor for the
Greetings from Munich,
I am glad that you are still alive and under RedHat contract.
There is two different ShareNets then! The original and grand-old ShareNet for ICN (god bless), based on ... you named it
a product ShareNet by Agilience, which is sponsored by Siemens and lead by a familiar name
It is not just for the ICN division anymore!
The ShareNet address has been changed from
sharenet.siemens.com (not accessible from
the Internet) so that ICN/ICM ShareNet is
now sharenet.siemens.com/ic. The whole
point of the new 4.x-based ShareNet is
that, using the ACS 4 concept of packages
and site nodes it is possible to serve many
communities, ICN (and ICM) being just one of
them, from a single installation. That's
why it was launched in December last year as
_Siemens_ ShareNet 1.0, although software
version is 8.0. The currently running
Siemens ShareNet 1.3 is using the 8.3
version of the software.
check out this thread