Forum OpenACS Q&A: Re: Workflow package download, Where and How-To

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Posted by Kenneth Wyrick on
dominique klutz: My main concern, is that ther is too much doc that is obsolete, or packages untouched since 1999, 2001. Those are not maintaned - not reliable. I am sure ActiveState, and Dekka spent a lot of time to debug that all thing.
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Posted by Kenneth Wyrick on
[09:13:54] dominique klutz: I will spend one week to rebuild (if possible) the interpreter and AOLserver - find memory leaks and uninitialized data. and testing openacs on that rebuilt platform. If successful, i will evaluate how much time for testing the basic tcllib. Could take a few months. Will see if my customer has the budget.
[09:14:50] … some packages look ok like xotcl
[09:15:22] … but not sure about openacs.
[09:16:58] dominique klutz: at a certain point i will compare with Groovy - yes.
[09:18:05] Kenneth Wyrick: so you figure you will be able to use tcl but you need to test whether or not the openacs will work for you.
[09:18:49] dominique klutz: it's like a big forest, some people are born in it, they know where to go and where not to go. It's another story for a newcomer.
[09:19:29] Kenneth Wyrick: https://groovy-lang.org/ (was groovy.codehaus.org/, see also https://projectmanagernews.com/general/most-important-projects-codehaus/)
[09:19:38] dominique klutz: But knowing TeX very well, i see the power of Tcl behind a web server.
[09:20:09] Kenneth Wyrick: ok i was thinking that based on what you told me before.
[09:21:25] dominique klutz: My hope is to discover that aolserver is rock solid like TeX.
[09:21:45] Kenneth Wyrick: yes that would be good
[09:22:09] dominique klutz: Tex did not have any new release since 2001 (i think) and i never put any customer in danger using tex.
[09:22:35] Kenneth Wyrick: so the same thing is the case with some of the oacs
[09:22:42] dominique klutz: So I have no problem with aolserver not having new release.
[09:22:54] … If it's really rock solid.
[09:23:23] … because with Tcl we can extend to anything.
[09:23:34] Kenneth Wyrick: that's cool
[09:25:23] dominique klutz: the other positive thing is that openacs is a base for quickly presenting prototypes.
[09:26:46] Kenneth Wyrick: i like that too. i've started going through the new tutorial.
[09:27:03] dominique klutz: so far i have 21 files C++ compiled successful.
[09:27:17] Kenneth Wyrick: how many total?
[09:27:51] dominique klutz: ~100
[09:28:39] … for tcl interpreter - I have to say " well written"
[09:28:57] … not too cryptic.
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Posted by Brian Fenton on
Hi Kenneth,

we in Quest Computing still use the original acs-workflow package (which was later rewritten as plain "workflow" but we prefer the original- it's incredibly powerful). I know Frank Bergmann in Project Open uses it too (see this posting https://openacs.org/forums/message-view?message_id=329333 and also http://www.project-open.com/en/package-acs-workflow - I know Frank has written a lot of documentation around it).

Hope this helps
Brian