The Flash suggestion is really just a better-than-nothing fall-back in case the javascript thing is fundamentally unworkable. I was responding to Ben's comment (consistent with everything else I've been hearing) that absolutely nobody has been able to get the damned thing to work at all. If it can work at least as well as the photo.net implementation, that's a horse of a different color. BTW, I would consider paying to have somebody improve the implementation for OpenACS. It's a fairly important short-term business priority for us and we don't have the expertise to do it ourselves. So if any of you cowboys (or cowgirls) out there are up to it and can work with me a bit on price, let me know. At the moment, this is the only way I have at my disposal to "contribute" code to the OpenACS project.