<blockquote><i> I don't see how it's possible to learn programming from a bunch of losers who don't have a single compelling product.</i></blockquote>
Just because Ars Digita no longer has a product, I wouldn't call them losers. After all, they have a firm schedule for their Java-based product release. I expect them to rise from the ashes, like the Phoenix, and put forth a product once again. Meanwhile, if you're worried about them, perhaps you should post in a forum on their server?
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And, hell, why not cut them the benefit of the doubt?
<p>As far as learning programming here, or anywhere else, if you're trying to learn to program from a web bulletin board, you're a sick puppy.
<p>I learned to program back in 1970, amd have several commercial compilers to my name (though sadly the hardware's obsolete and unavailable) and a variety of other pieces of system software. True, this is my first foray into the wimpy-assed applications (as opposed to systems) realm but that doesn't make me an idiot.
<p>Nor does it make you an idiot. You're doing very well on your own.
