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Van's right. If anyone wants to be amazed by a curmudgeony community, check out the Smoothwall FAQ pdf. They spend about 20 pages explaining why you're probably a donkey's butt for asking for a developer's help. It seems that most open source communities that are security focused are led by insane curmudgeons who just haven't found a local militia that's angry enough.
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Anyway, the <a href=
http://www.ipcop.org>IPcop (
http://www.ipcop.org)</a>community is an offshoot of Smoothwall. These guys were sick and tired of dealing with the angry bastards who ran Smoothwall. Also, I think the Smoothwall guys wanted to start making money off of the code so they were playing games with the code they released under GPL. So, AFAIK, it's a fork of the Smoothwall.
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I imagine Van's review of Smoothwall is reasonably accurate for IPcop, too.
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talli
