Forum OpenACS Q&A: Real takes open source route...

1: Real takes open source route...

Posted by David Kuczek on 07/23/02 08:12 AM

What do people think about Real's effort, especially their license
modell...

http://news.com.com/2100-1023-945406.html?tag=fd_top

http://www.helixcommunity.org/

2: Response to Real takes open source route... (response to 1)

Posted by Jonathan Ellis on 07/23/02 04:57 PM

seriously, most of us read tech news sites. that's why these posts don't generate any discussion here...

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Posted by defunct defunct on 07/23/02 05:00 PM

David,

I personally don't check out that many techie news sites... have far too much work to do, but, taking Jonathan's point, this kind of thing would be perfect for a .com/marketing view of openacs.. i.e. related posting, business issues, strategy etc...

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Posted by David Kuczek on 07/23/02 07:24 PM

Okay news.com might be an obvious place to read, but I just wanted to hear if somebody with license background read Real's license... When I read the article I was thinking about class room streaming for dotLRN...

If there was another more apropriate forum I would surely post it there so that people that don't want to read such redundant posts don't have to subscribe to it! BTW I don't cut and paste everydays tech news link selection... and yes there has been news posts in the past that generated valuable discussion!

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Posted by Talli Somekh on 07/23/02 07:44 PM

In the discussion earlier about a oacs.com or marketing site I suggested a slash-like blog. This could help for reasons as David and Simon suggested. It wouldn't be hard to implement eitehr...

Also, David, try coming to the #openacs channel on irc.openprojects.net. I know I'm sounding like a broken record, but the more people that are there, the more real time OACS dev dicsussion can take place...

talli

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Posted by Don Baccus on 07/23/02 08:37 PM

Maybe if more people came to IRC we'd get more stimulating discussion like this:

talli:  markd's a dork
markd:  paje's a dork
paje: talli's a dork

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Posted by Peter Marklund on 07/23/02 08:37 PM

David,
just like Simon I also hardly have the time to follow the tech news and I found your post quite interesting! Keep em coming! 😊

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Posted by Talli Somekh on 07/23/02 08:41 PM

Touche, Don.

But all work and no play makes for a very boring developer's community, no?

Also, no more beer for you...

talli

9: My Real Story.... (response to 1)

Posted by MaineBob OConnor on 07/24/02 03:28 AM

This is GOOD NEWS

We serve up over 100 hours of Real audio on a non-Real server (non streaming server). It works well. Some of our users have had trouble getting REAL installed and working on their machines. We always recommend that they download the *hard to find* link to the FREE (not TRIAL) version of the player. Initially there were some problems with the newest player "REAL ONE" playing our stuff and I still keep the install file of Real 7 'cause it is less "ad-dy" and in your face than Real 8 and Real One.

I have another machine with Real One (FREE) on it and just last week I wanted to play a wav file in an email, and Real One said it needed to contact the website to get some missing component. It wouldn't connect so I did the whole unin/reinstall again and still it wanted to get the missing component to play wav's and again it failed... I gave up and installed WinAmp. I suspect but cannot prove that they left this wav component out so that they can get me to buy their player...

AND I am looking for another NonReal player to recommend to our users that is free and easy to install. Steve Gibson the shields up guru of grc.com really dislikes REAL because they were harvesting user info and denied it.... Steve proved they were harvesting... AS a result his stuff is served with Microsoft's Media Player. NOW I just read (infoworld?) that the license agreement with the Newest version of Microsoft's Media Player allows microsoft to delete files from my harddrive as it sees fit, particularly ones that *may* infringe on some copyright and likely to be MP3.... WAY too invasive....

So much for a rant... Any suggestions for a Free Real Audio format player that works on Win, Mac and Linux that I can recommend to our users?

-Bob

10: Response to Real takes open source route... (response to 1)

Posted by Brian Fenton on 07/24/02 01:23 PM

I've never used IRC before, but would be interested in getting on #openacs. What software do most people use to connect?

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Posted by Talli Somekh on 07/24/02 01:28 PM

Brian,

Here is a quick tutorial...

To log onto the server, there are a number of tools you can use. My personal favorite is Chatzilla, a free application which comes with Mozilla.

If you download Mozilla from mozilla.org and install the complete version, Chatzilla will be on your computer. Open Mozilla, and go to the tools menu and select Chatzilla. A new window will open.

In the text space for the "client" tab, type:

/server irc.openprojects.net

A new tab will open that welcomes you to the server. Then type:

/join #openacs

Another tab will open up. You should see my name there with a green dot next to it. Then start chatting!

Another client that can be used on Windows is trillian from trillian.cc. On Linux, xchat is a nice client.

However, a google search for IRC and Windows or whatever OS you happen to be using should bring up quite a few other tools.

HTH

talli

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Posted by Brian Fenton on 07/24/02 01:37 PM

Cool! Thanks Talli, I'll give it a whirl!

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Posted by Brian Fenton on 07/24/02 03:54 PM

Having a small problem...
What port do I have to open on my firewall? Is it 6667?

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Posted by Talli Somekh on 07/24/02 04:01 PM

Brian, yeah, 6667 is the IRC port.

talli

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Posted by C. R. Oldham on 07/24/02 04:54 PM

Brian,

If you also need to access the various IM systems, Trillian is a multi-protocol chat client that also speaks the IRC protocol. See http://www.trillian.cc/

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Posted by Michael Bluett on 07/24/02 05:36 PM

About the IRC channel, perhaps someone could suggest a link via Java applet for the lazy?