Forum OpenACS Q&A: How to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.6?

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1: How to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.6?
Posted by Jade Rubick on 01/10/03 03:07 AM
Would someone mind giving me a brief rundown on how to upgrade?

Perhaps we should have this in a FAQ?

(I know, I know, who wants to write it?)

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2: Re: How to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.6? (response to 1)
Posted by Roberto Mello on 01/10/03 04:14 AM
I added this to the HUGE extra release notes that I'm crafting as I post this. Its temporary location (will be moved to openacs.org once I'm done) is http://www.brasileiro.net/roberto/artigos/new-changelog.html. Suggestions welcome (as long as they come in a form I can just cut-and-paste).

I'm still waiting for package owners to give me their changelogs (Andrew Piskorski already did, THANKS!). I'd be REALLY grateful if those changelogs came in a bulleted list like the one I'm using for the acs-core.

-Roberto

P.S.: This is taking a long time. I hope some people can appreciate this.

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3: Re: How to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.6? (response to 1)
Posted by Jade Rubick on 01/10/03 06:27 AM
Thank you, Roberto!!! That looks great!
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4: Re: How to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.6? (response to 1)
Posted by Lars Pind on 01/10/03 09:36 AM
Roberto,

This is so cool. I'm looking over the list, and I'm actually quite impressed with all the stuff that's happened since the last release. Yay! We rock! :)

(One small gripe:

"Lars Blogger:

A web log system contributed by Lars Pinds. Features RSS syndication, synchronization with weblogs.com, archival by dates."

The name is Pind, withous the "s". pind.com was taken. Though I actually did get pind.org :))

/Lars

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5: Re: How to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.6? (response to 1)
Posted by Roberto Mello on 01/10/03 04:42 PM
Lars,

I'm glad this is being appreciated, as it took several hours to get it done (the next release should be much faster since we (#openacs) found out that cvs2cl can output xml, and someone has written xslt transforms to html).

Yes, that was the biggest thing that hit me while crafting the changelog. A LOT of stuff was done. Kudos to the community!

Another thing that hit me is that several things that affect developers were changed (like the context bar thing, and discouraging of local masters) but we ended up not documenting those. I've been a lousy documentation guy.

Another thing one cran grab from the changelog is that this release should be called "Release 4.6 (The 'Jeff Davis' Release)" because of the great number of commits and things fixed by Jeff. Horray for him!

Re: "Pinds", sorry. I will fix that 😊

-Roberto

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6: Re: How to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.6? (response to 1)
Posted by Roberto Mello on 01/10/03 04:50 PM
Still on the new changelog issues, I'm adding all the new packages that made it into OpenACS. So far I have attachments, forums, notifications, lars-blogger, bug-tracker, survey, acs-mail-lite and bulkmail.

If I am missing any, please let me know very soon.

For bulkmail, there's no description in the .info file, and I can sort of grasp what it does, but I don't have the time to go wad through the code to find out.

Can anyone give me a short description of what it does, including features? (I'd like one for survey too. Dave?)

Thanks,

-Roberto

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7: Re: How to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.6? (response to 1)
Posted by Lars Pind on 01/10/03 05:38 PM
Bookshelf is another package that's been added. PG only, though.
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8: Re: How to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.6? (response to 1)
Posted by Don Baccus on 01/10/03 06:32 PM
bugtracker is also PG-only ...

For the future, could folks writing a package for just one database make a bigger effort to find folks willing to port to the other before we integrate them into a release?

Doing a port's not that big a job typically though it's fairly thankless.  For many packages, though, I think we'll find that a call for volunteers will likely drag up at least one hacker who will want the package in their favorite DB rather than the implementor's favorite DB.

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9: Re: How to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.6? (response to 2)
Posted by Steve Manning on 01/10/03 07:23 PM
I know your striving for perfection so just in case you didn't spot it theres a typo in ACS Mail Lite:-

'Contributed by OpenForce, wro wrote it for dotLRN (MIT)'

'wro' instead of 'who'. Did you put it in to see if anyone was reading your work 😊


    Steve

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10: Re: How to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.6? (response to 7)
Posted by Roberto Mello on 01/11/03 04:39 AM
Lars,

Can you give me a short summary for bookshelf, including some of its features?

Funny thing is that I don't have bookshelf in my 4.6 checkout. Perhaps I missed some CVS flag, but I thought -Pd would do it.

-Roberto

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11: Re: How to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.6? (response to 9)
Posted by Roberto Mello on 01/11/03 04:41 AM
Steve,

No, it was a real typo 😊 Thanks for reporting it.

-Roberto

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12: Re: How to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.6? (response to 1)
Posted by Lars Pind on 01/11/03 12:11 PM
Turns out bookshelf is only on HEAD, not on the branch. Fine with me, let's just keep it that way for now.

Documentation's here:

http://oacs-pg.cph01.collaboraid.net/doc/bookshelf/

We'll be porting bug-tracker to Oracle as part of our current engagement.

Any volunteers to port bookshelf to Oracle?

/Lars

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13: Re: How to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.6? (response to 1)
Posted by Mohan Pakkurti on 01/11/03 12:27 PM
Roberto!!!

Thanks for the awesome job in compiling the list of changes...
Congratulations to the crew for such tremendous progress!

/Mohan

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14: Re: How to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.6? (response to 12)
Posted by Steve Manning on 01/11/03 02:37 PM
Lars

I get 'You don't have permission to read ACS Core Documents.'
when I try to access the url for bookshelf docs.

    Steve

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15: Re: How to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.6? (response to 1)
Posted by Lars Pind on 01/11/03 06:32 PM
Steve,

Please try again.

Also, to see it in action, check out:

http://oacs-pg.cph01.collaboraid.net/bookshelf/

Just create an account if you want to try adding stuff.

It's decidedly not quite finished. I found several bugs right now, and I fixed a few of them.

As you can see I've been playing with UI elements from bug-tracker and blogger. Hopefully I'll get time to enhance both this and blogger some in the coming few months. Bug-tracker should see some improvements quite soon now, thanks to our current engagement.

/Lars

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16: Re: How to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.6? (response to 1)
Posted by Luigi Martini on 01/13/03 12:49 AM
Just to take inspiration from the subject of this thread (How to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.6?) imagine that I tried for many months to properly install OACS 4.5, and could not succeed.
Now it is maybe time for me to try with 4.6 version. The big problem is: how can I start from scratch? What is the way to follow to clean up all the 4.5 installation?
In case I do not get an answer I feel forced to reformat the entire disk and reinstall linux.
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17: Re: How to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.6? (response to 16)
Posted by Tilmann Singer on 01/13/03 01:19 PM
When you're running postgresql there shouldn't be a problem doing 
$ createdb myoacs46
Checkout or unpack oacs-4-6 files in /web/myoacs46 or whereever you usually put your web projects, configure your existing aolserver installation to use the myoacs46 db and point its documentroot to /web/myoacs46, and from there on you should be able to install from scratch.

No need to reformat your linux hard drive, please don't blackmail us with such horrible threats 😉.

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18: Re: How to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.6? (response to 1)
Posted by Luigi Martini on 01/13/03 02:58 PM
Tilmann,
what you write is true, but the whole thing is not so easy as you think, at least not for beginners.
In order to try and install OpenACS 4.5 I had to download lots of different things (AOLserver, Postgres, libxml2, damontools, and other strange names...), issue very many commands (see here) and hope all was right. Actually, although I struggled much, I could not succeed, so I insist now.

I am positively afraid that, in order to install 4.6, I will have to download new things (recent versions of programs, for instance) and issue many strange commands more: some (a lot) of which will most probably conflict with the existing situation.

>...whereever you usually put your web projects...

I never had the chance to put any web project anywhere: I'm a beginner.
Luigi
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19: Re: How to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.6? (response to 18)
Posted by Tilmann Singer on 01/13/03 06:08 PM
I think the recommended list is:

openacs 4.6
aolserver 3.3+ad13
postgresql 7.2.x (any version that starts with 7.2)

If you have that already, re-use it. If not, upgrade your older versions. Post here if you run into any troubles.

Good luck.

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20: Re: difference between 4.5i and 6i? (response to 1)
Posted by satya Narayana Reddy on 06/14/07 08:16 AM
hello,
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