Andrew, as far as shutting up, well... I take massive issue with that. Greenpeace posted a provocative note, Patrick posted something more provocative, and then I responded. No hard feelings. Patrick and I are cool with each other on this. So we disagree. No problem.
If anything, you should have taken your own advice since the thread had ended for all intents and purposes.
Also, when referencing things that are "crocks" please give links to people other than reactionary weirdos who like to comment on things from greenhouse gases to very weird and racist socio-biological theories. It makes your argument look weak.