Forum OpenACS Development: Re: Remoting (Formerly: The future of OpenACS)

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Posted by Stefan Sobernig on
Ummm, you started this thread.
Nope, if I remember correctly, it was Malte starting the thread on remoting, by collecting some rough scenarios. I continued by summarizing what had been discussed during the OpenACS Spring Conference, still focussing on a general road mapping. It was you going into design + implementation details (of TWiST/tWSDL) which I somehow found inappropriate in a Future-of-OpenACS thread and therefore forked the original. However, my idea was still a general road mapping. C'est tout.
I listed the examples I could find, I asked for better examples. I'm still waiting.
Mmmh, if you are looking for "better examples" to the AXIS/.NET/... examples posted by you, simple googling won't be enough. I had good experiences with browsing the code repositories (especially the test suites contained in there) and getting my hands dirty with re-implementing and extending test cases for my purposes. If this is no option for you, mailing to the developer lists may help (that's why I indicated an example thread from the mono-devel list previously). At least, either of these options is better than posting a request to this forum.
What can be done? Have the most experienced people with regards to webservices (Stefan and Tom) along with interested OCT members come up with a generic strategy how to support webservices in OpenACS.
Taking up Malte's original statement, I would like to call a spade a spade. Tom, would you be willing to contribute (a) to a phase of general + detailed requirements gathering/ road mapping and, subsequently, (b) realising implementation efforts, even though they go beyond the scope of TWiST/tWSDL and might even replace these two as self-contained solutions?
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Posted by Tom Jackson on
I really wish I could figure out what I did that was inappropriate. Discussing code? This isn't a tea party.

Anyway, I'm not interested in your remoting whatever. TWiST does what it does and doesn't need to be integrated with some ambiguous uber-code. Why not just release the code you have right now?

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Posted by Stefan Sobernig on
Tom,
Anyway, I'm not interested in your remoting whatever.

I got this strong impression, indeed! However, you constantly become set on MY, YOURS, THEIRS etc. I was never referring to MY fetish necessarily being THE solution for OpenACS, I just wanted to know whether there is esprit for co-ordinated action.

TWiST does what it does and doesn't need to be integrated with some ambiguous uber-code.

At least in this respect, I got an honest answer. Thanks for making this clear to me.

Why not just release the code you have right now?
Why? The only thing that prevents me from doing so is the fact that I am currently on holidays and that I am not fully available to support (early) adopters. I will be back to office around the end of next week, so expect the release around that weekend.

I, therefore, close this enlightening tea party from my side ...