Forum OpenACS Q&A: Wimpy Point (Slim) : To dive or not...

Greetings !

I am  considering use of the Wimpy Point Slim package from OACS 4.5
in educational environment.  It will be used by lecturers to put
their class-notes online. Could not find much discussion/comments
about it on forum threads. Is the module in production-ready state?
Or the community is considering major revision of it (is heavy
reliance on CR by the package ok ?) In other words, should I go
ahead and start using it, fixing any bug along the way or there is
more to it and should not dive into it without understanding CR
functionality?

Many Thanks !

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Posted by Don Baccus on
The use of the CR is fine.

There are probably unknown bugs in it but we can help you track them down if true.

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Posted by Samir Joshi on
Thanks Don,

With that assurance I can start working on it without any
apprehension.

Here i go...Splash !

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Posted by Lars Pind on
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Posted by Carl Robert Blesius on
Go Samir!

Glad you have jumped in to wrestle with Wimpy!

He is ideal for an educational environment (easy to use with
important collaborative aspects).... bully him up!

😊

Carl

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Posted by Samir Joshi on
Thanks Carl,
for  boosting my morale ! Can I refer your presentation on e-Learning using Wimpy point from your member profile page  to some of my colleagues to show them power of  stylish  Wimpy ?

First problem I faced was  easy to fix : On clicking 'next' link for slide navigation : 'can not find variable href_forward' in serve_slide.tcl from both 4.5b1 tarball as well as cvs -r openacs-4-5 checkout. Just had to initialize the variable. A couple of  problems are reported at OpenMSg Test Server including what Lars fixed, but not this trivial problem. Nor on open/closed bugs for Wimpy on SDM for oacs-4. Is it possible that I might be gettings source files from wrong location ?

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Posted by Lars Pind on
I'm checking in to the trunk/HEAD/development branch, i.e. *NOT* the 4.5 branch. Don't know what the status is on merging things back from the 4.5 branch to the trunk, but I believe it did happen a while back.
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Posted by Caroline Meeks on
Thanks for diving in Samir,

Sloan is interested in adding WimpyPoint to dotLRN but we decided we didn't have time to do it by our first launch in Aug.  I hope we can in the fall or perhaps you'll decide to also take on making a dotLRN-applet :).

Either way, looking forward to seeing your results.

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Posted by Roger Williams on
Our group has been using it some (on ACS4Tcl). It mostly works, but there are a few annoyances, i.e.

  • not really an ACS4 application
  • not really subsite-enabled
  • no use of templates
  • breadcrumb trail not working consistently
  • Top link broken at end of presentation
  • Comments not hooked in

Regards..

Thanks for the complement Samir! Please show the
presentation to whomever you like. That is why I put it up there,
so it can be shared (and that is where the little innocent Wimpy
shines 😊.
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Posted by Lars Pind on
There's another bug: https://openacs.org/sdm/one-baf.tcl?baf_id=1565.

Can't delete a slide. I fixed a lot of small porting errors, but the slide still won't die.

If anybody wants to take a stab at trying to fix this, that'd be great. I couldn't get any further.

Bit sorry that did not post this yesterday - now I know better - we could have avoided some duplication of work . I was stopped at the same error that you mention Lars after fixing porting stuff. Then, I saw this Dave Bauer's fix for wp-slim-drop.sql . Commented these same lines from slide/presentation delete code and it works ! But not sure if this is *proper* thing to do :

-- update acs_objects set context_id=null where context_id = slide id;

Caroline,I am very hopeful of making Wimpy work for dotLRN - including Roger's suggestions if all agree. I don't know (yet) internals of ACS, but with all the excellent support from this vibrant community, it should be matter of only couple of weeks. Can't wait till .LRN is ready for Postgres.

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Posted by Samir Joshi on
We have written XML import/export facility for wimpy presentation
and glossary terms. But it would be nice to have it in standard
format so we can exchange data with other systems when need arises.

I know open-office uses XML format for storing presentations. But
have done no reasearch for glossary - is there any standard we
should be using to export/import glossary data ?