Re Dave's comment on proper usage, I would love to learn how to use ad_form, but the documentation I have found seems light on examples, the ad_form code seemed a bit dense to read and understand on its own, and therefore a long sit-down and read-thru and pondering seemed called for, and I have never found the time to do that. Could someone be generous enough to post a good example or two showing some significant functionality in a page that obtains and processes input? That will be a fast way to learn, and I would be very, very grateful. Or if there is documentation with examples somewhere that would also be great to learn about. Thanks!!