Forum .LRN Q&A: Minor data loss on translation server

In the process of deleting messages containing invalid variables (variables that are not in the english message, for example a misspelled %sytem_name% was used instead of %system_name%) I accidentally deleted too many mesages and had to bring down the server and restore the data from our nightly backups. I'm sorry about any lost translations that this might have caused! If anybody's interested I can dig up the full listing of deleted keys. The system will now no longer allow messages with invalid variables to be added.

So that's the "minor loss" now? That was hours - weeks - of work. How often do you make backups of the translation work!? This one seems to be from the beginning of October! There is a point when a careless (if not disrepectful) working style makes it hard to cooperate. This is very, very annoying.

I perfectly understand Anja's frustration in discovering that translations are lost on the server. We take the matter very seriously and since we have backup files there is a good chance that any lost translations can be recovered. I encourage other translators to visit /acs-lang/admin on the translation server, examine the untranslated messages for each package in their respective locale and please let me know if there are lost translations.

Thank you!

Peter
Danny Elmassih (at WEG) did AR_LB (arabic). I believe he had done about 2,000 (all the ones avilable a few weeks ago) and there are only 1600 or so now. Danny finished his project with me, could you see if you could recover some more of his work?

thanks

Rafael

Rafael,
I would not hold off with translations. We will proceed very cautiously with future upgrades and we will have a better process in place. I will investigate any loss of AR_LB messages.

Anja,
as far as lost edits go I've been trying to investigate that a little. I have set up a server running the messages that were in the server on the 29:th of october, before most of the upgrade work was done. I have added a page that shows you recent translation work. Please compare the following two pages, the first one being the production data, and the second one being the data on the 29:th of October:

http://translate.openacs.org/edit-history?form%3Amode=edit&form%3Aid=locale&__confirmed_p=0&__refreshing_p=0&locale=de_DE&number_of_edits=800&email_exclude=peter%40collaboraid.biz&formbutton%3Aok=+++++++OK+++++++

http://translate.cph02.collaboraid.net/edit-history?form%3Amode=edit&form%3Aid=locale&__confirmed_p=0&__refreshing_p=0&locale=de_DE&number_of_edits=800&email_exclude=peter%40collaboraid.biz&formbutton%3Aok=+++++++OK+++++++

It seems on the production machine edits before october have been lost. Anja, if you could point me to one or two example messages to work with that are lost (or rather not up-to-date) on the production server that would be very helpful.

Thanks for your patience!

Peter
I was looking att the chinese interface. Althought it has 600 more tokens translated than Spanish, it looks as if it were very incomplete. Why is that?

R