Forum OpenACS Q&A: Spam module in 3.2.5 trouble?

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Posted by Cathy Sarisky on
Hi everyone,

I recently decided that I wanted to spam the registered users of my
little friends-and-family oACS installation.  I wrote up the spam,
and waited for it to go out.  The spam goes to "sending" fairly
quickly, but then never actually seems to get sent.  (I didn't
receive it, I didn't get a bounce, it continues to list as "sending"
24 hours later, with 0 messages sent.)

Obviously something is screwy here.

oACS successfully sends errors in the logs, bboard postings, etc.  So
mail from other modules is working.  But not spam.

I got this spam by doing a search for users and clicking "spam these
users."  I don't have any user classes defined.  (Is this part of the
problem?)

Before I pull any hair out (lacking an error message anywhere), can
anyone suggest where I might start to look for the problem?  This one
has me stumped!

Thanks!

Cathy

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Posted by David Walker on
If it is a problem sending mail you should find errors in your error log.

Check this setting in your nsd.tcl
ns_section "ns/parameters"
        ns_param   MailHost     my.email.server

By default the MailHost is set to localhost. If you are not running sendmail or another mail server locally you will need to specify a mail server to send mail through and make sure that you can send mail through it.
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Posted by Jonathan Ellis on
She did say "everything but spam" is working...
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Posted by David Walker on
Oh sure.  Read the entire message.  I suppose I could have tried that but
that would be too easy.
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Posted by Cathy Sarisky on
So I tried sending more spam, this time using a user group for selecting spamees, and the spam sent just fine.  Apparently leaving all the selection fields blank, while it does produce a list of all users, does not work for actually sending out spam.  I'll SDM this one once I've had a chance to look at the code a bit more.
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Posted by MaineBob OConnor on
I can't point you to an exact answer but we had a problem with
this module a while back and it was failing because a field was missing in users table or copy/view thereof.... and it turned out that it was a field we had added for OTHER purposes.  At the time, I thought that my adding  a field for OTHER purposes shouldn't break the spam module...

This module, i think uses a view or a copy of the original table and and....    check your error log and follow the dusty trail 'till you find the bug!

-Bob

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Posted by Cynthia Kiser on
I bet it uses the users_spammable view. On Oracle that view breaks and has to be recompiled any time you add a column to users (because the view is defined as "select * from users where..."). You might try the PostGres equivalent of "select object_name, object_type from user_objects where status = 'INVALID';" to see if your data dictionary shows any invalid views (or functions, etc). I would however expect that if this were the problem that there would be a database error logged to the server error log.
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8: Ah-hah. (response to 1)
Posted by Cathy Sarisky on
I had indeed added a column to users.  And indeed, I am seeing an error thrown in the log.  (Last night I was apparently looking at servername.log, which doesn't show sql errors and not at servername.log.date, which does.)  Oops.

Thanks to everyone for the help :)

Cathy