Forum .LRN Q&A: Who is Using .LRN?
Our local priorities are:
- Upgrade to .LRN v2 by end of January 2004. Our primary focus for the next two months will be to work on a stabilizing .LRN v2.
- Improve .LRN usability and look and feel. This is the most significant feedback we receive from our users: ".LRN needs to look polished and sexy. The interface in some areas is also clumsy."
- Install and support .LRN instances to MIT research centers. We are targeting about 10 new .LRN instances at MIT by March 2004.
In Heidelberg we have had a .LRN 1.0 instance running non-stop since April. We have been using it for our internal communication and for a few courses (mainly from the English department).
With everyone's help we have been pushing a 2.0 version that supports multiple languages and external authentication (glad to see OpenACS 5.0 beta 1 hit the floor today). As our 2.0 installation slowly comes online (30K+ users will have access to the system thanks to the external authentication work) over the next few weeks, we will be focusing on getting bugs ironed out.
Local priorities over the next few months (secondary to the 2.0 release):
- Improve forums. The old bboard module may not have looked as nice, but it is very obvious that it has been refined over the years. Forums starts to crack when it is used heavily... users suffering because of it.
- Complex Survey. We need this in my medical school in the first quarter of next year.
- Improve file storage. Luckily, we have people pushing this forward and they have OpenACS's need for a good CMS in the back of their minds.
- Revive the now dead community page.
The System provides much functionality for students, instructors and administrative employees, starting from the simple student schedule to a complex online registration process.
Birzeit now is in the process of adopting .LRN (we'll be running v2 as a system for Training Courses before the end of the year.)
We plan to extend the system to do some financial and human resource management for the courses... I'll be posting our progress...
The University of Heilbronn, Germany has launched a pilot for dotLRN since 9/2003. It is used by computer science departments for roughly 4 courses.
We need to have ironed out bugs in 1.0.1. We are disappointed that we run often into problems and have no possibility to patch our installation. We tried to find a stable branch in CVS but we failed (any help appreciated).
We would like to upgrade as soon as possible to 2.0 but there must be a stable branch in CVS (e.g. using the tag "dotlrn 2.0.0_01"...) which allows us to integrate proven, stable patches.
I don't know the new features of 2.0 but hope, that it includes
- notification, when new documents (file storage) are available
- start- and enddate of visibility of documents in the file storage
- learning control tests (multiple choice, true/false, ...)
- hierarchical homework folders
Prof. Dr. Jörg Winckler
We had to iron out some processing bottlenecks that made the system quite sluggish and some other bugs in the start, and now it is running quite nicely with between 4000 - 6000 logins per day.
We are planning to upgrade to v2 in january, mainly to get Oracle 9i compatibility, but also to get new functionality. We are planning to use a clustered solution for Oracle and possibly also load balancing for the web server. At the moment we are managing quite well on two Dell 2650 servers, but we expect higher load as more subjects will be using more functionality.
We also guide students over to more dedicated LMS-systems, and plan single sing-on transfer to them as sell as webmail. We are happy for more LMS-functionality in .LRN, and are also looking at central solutions for Portfolio and content management for learning objects.
One of the biggest headaches has been not being able to bulk load calendar items. Most of the other problems have not been specific to .LRN but have been OACS stuff. For example, I continue to have headaches when upgrading packages and OACS versions.
An item that might be of interest to some folks is that I have (slowly) been working on some tools to allow an OACS install to send and receive IM (from AIM only now but will add a few other services soon). If you can't or don't want to use the Jabber tools this might (when it's ready for prime time) be of some use. Currently I am using it in a pilot program where I have students use it for keeping a metacognitive diary.
This is a bottom-up initiative in a notoriously top-down institutional setting, but thanks to the efforts of many (including the .LRN folks I mentioned in a recent post here) we are quickly gaining interest and support from faculty and adminstration.
Our immediate goal is to develop user tutorials, a manual of best practices, and build a small community of dedicated users upon which we may seek additional funding to support our present instance and expanding but still modest user base.
At this point, we are less concerned with developing additional features than we are with helping make the current feature set more user-friendly. Hence, my solicitation of interest in documentation.
Current Status: The base application is ready and Content Digitisation and upload is under process.
Current Scope: The main idea is to normalise the knowledge spread across the five participating undergrad-colleges, through active discussions and course-content sharing.
Future Direction: To be able to establish separate sub-sites for the participating colleges for course/class management functionality and synchronise with the course-wide knowledge-base that cuts across the colleges and provides a common pool of resources.
-Empresa Brasileira de Produtos Agrícolas (Embrapa),
-CGECon (Centro de Gestão do Conhecimento at MRE-Brazilian Ministry),
Using 1.0.1 and waiting for 2.0.
-CGECon (Centro de Gestão do Conhecimento at MRE-Brazilian Ministry),Using 1.0.1 and waiting for 2.0.
-MDIC(Brazilian Ministry).Using ACS 3.2.5 and waiting for dotlrn 2.0.
A lot of other institutions in Brazilian Government are waiting for the new (translated) version.
Administration are using currently an OpenACS based
System covering all first-year courses and a few courses
for higher semesters. Currently we have more than 16.000
registered users, we are supporting roughly 300 classes in
this semester, the system sees e.g. this week an avg
of about 2mio requests per day. A paper describing our system is here:
Our plan is to incorporate .LRN by Feb/March 2004 unless
we are hit by major performance penalties.
As we are using recent CVS versions of all involved Software (to be able to use internationalization) we are actually busy with debugging, unicode display and entry issues.
We are experimenting spurious locks of the aolserver/postgres too.
On the other hand we are producing/tranlsating user documentation into spanish.
Many of the users are new too me and I will be adding them to the case studies section of the dotlrn.org site.
I would appreciate if those involved with the projects already there could have a look at what is written and let me know of any errors.
The university is switching its student information systems to Banner, which is Oracle-based, so we'll be looking into that (if anyone has information on Banner integration, I'd be happy to hear it).
Can non-university dotLRN installations be profiled on the case-studies pages that you and Ernie put up. We have AIESEC.net as a large dotLRN installation that could be profiled as well, if possible. I could compile the case-study and mail you, if you could use it. Ernie would be able to give some details about it, as he developed on it as well.
Yes, I have already some "organizations" including AIESEC.
I will have to collect more info, probablbly in February since Ernie is overseas and I am going on holidays soon
Our plan is to migrate to .LRN, which do not only consist on data migration, which is a considerably work, but also:
The port of packages and some enhancements already made on ACES:
- Evaluation Package: for grading everything that course might have, from exams to projects, tasks, etc.
- SMS gateway
- Synchronize .LRN with the universitys administrative database, in order to create automatically the classes, terms, departments, users and move them across classes, put the students calendar into the calendar system, upload the student photo, etc.
- Handling different scopes for surveys with support for anonymous survey.
- Having the well know portlets of new stuff for forums, calendar items, file-storage that ACES used to have.
- And improve some small things that we have polished through the time here.
Integrate the previous work done here on LDAP / Aolserver / ACES to the new authentication system that openacs has.
The migration will happen on June / July 04 (we'll start on the very first process on January), but the new packages and features should come in the next couple of months.
The project started on Dec. 03 and lasts for 3 years. During this period the objective is to deploy the required elearning infrastructure (.LRN, courses, methodology, etc) in several Latin American countries and achieve the highest possible dissemination of such platform.
The project consortium is coordinated by Carlos III University of Madrid and counts with 10 partners. Among them, we count Universidad Galileo of Guatemala.
Our priority for the next few months is to define the required features in the platform and see how to integrate them with the on-going effort in .LRN
Three senior students are involved also under the Independent study and/or Senior Project regulations to help the Computer Science faculty in implementing .LRN in our university.
I hope that our Pilot Project will formally start very soon - we are seeking some funding for it.Our goal now is through these "live" experiments to prepare ourself and other faculty for using .LRN immediately after the Pilot Project starts.
University of Mannheim
- dotlrn 2.0.0b4
- PostgreSQL 7.3.4
- MySQL 4.0.15
- PHP 4.3.4
- AOLServer 3.3oas.1
- SuSE Linux 9.0 Kernel version 2.4.21-144-smp
- gcc version 3.3.1 (SuSE Linux)
- Siemens Fujitsu
- 4 CPU, each Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.06GHz
- Januar 20th 2004 (launch)
- 21.000+ users (expect 15.000 more to come) in synch
- started with few courses at present but much more expected this summer after introducing the plattform to all faculties
It is great to have some people with your experience (e.g. with Blackboard) join the .LRN community.
FYI: There is a little group slowly forming around getting assessment (w/ grading) going and we plan to hold our first chat in the morning on the dotlrn channel at 15:30 hours GMT (some might be in the chat room a little earlier) to talk about how to move forward.
The chat will take place on the irc channel here: irc://irc.freenode.net/#dotlrn If you use the complete install of Mozilla simply follow the link. If not use your favorite IRC client and connect to the irc.freenode.net server. Then join the #dotlrn channel.
The logs will be here (e.g. if you can not make it): https://openacs.org/projects/dotlrn/irc/
As explained on messages posted by Rocael Hernandez and Abelardo Pardo, we plan to migrate to .LRN on a few months.
Right now our priorities are the definition of requirements regarding the needs of the Latin American communities, and the creation of contents for demonstration.
We're using dotLRN 2.0.0rc1 for:
- Intranet based system - managing documents with version control, internal comunications, event calendar management;
- Tutor based courses - managing a class and community site.
- jabber package to postgresql
- finish up brazilian portuguese translate
are you in contact with Björn Kiebye the author of the jabber package about this port, as I know he has been working on this a little bit.
At SPAIN - University of Valencia. We are using dotLRN 2.0.0rc1 in a project pilot of GroupWare.
Our plans are:
-To prove the tool and to solve the dotlrn errors until July of the 2004.
-To correct the scalibility errors, our university has on 80.000 students.
-In September of the 2004 to use the tool massively for the whole university.
Our system this formed by two computers:
-Pentium IV 2U's
-120 GB HD
-S.O. LINUX DEBIAN 2.4.20
-DB POSTGRES 7.4.1
-Pentium IV 2U's
-120 GB HD
-S.O. LINUX DEBIAN 2.4.20
I posted a message to Bjorn Kiebye today. Maybe we could coordinate our efforts to work on it.
How interactive sessions is possible without any teacher?
How get permission to read dotlrn on www.beled.net site?
Please inform the perfect way.
We are using dotlrn 2.02
1100 researchers are using the system
Desktop machine (1.2ghz)
Cgecon(migrating from acs3.2.5)
Desktop machine (1.6ghz)
Starting the process of instalation in Fórum-PETI
at the Ministry of Justice.(Dotlrn2.03 with Postgresql)